WEBVTT 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:09.756 In the third episode, which is called Ecological Sustainability, we finally came to the conclusion that after 00:00:09.768 --> 00:00:18.600 thinking about all ecological sustainability, we might also deal with a few different themes in learning. 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:24.776 For me, it might be a bit strange that we have an ecological sustainability 00:00:24.788 --> 00:00:28.660 episode where we don't even talk about ecological sustainability. 00:00:29.645 --> 00:00:35.534 But for me, the key to this is that we have been for 50 years, if not more, aware 00:00:35.546 --> 00:00:41.520 that our lifestyle is not sustainable, specifically in terms of natural resources. 00:00:43.370 --> 00:00:45.460 And yet we have continued that lifestyle. 00:00:46.260 --> 00:00:48.440 Somehow this is not for me. 00:00:49.050 --> 00:00:50.890 And in that sense, it's a matter of knowledge. 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:54.680 If we don't have the knowledge of ecological sustainability, climate 00:00:54.692 --> 00:00:58.260 change, natural disaster and everything else, it would be enough. 00:00:59.620 --> 00:01:04.748 Somehow I think that this crisis cannot be solved by just adding 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:09.820 ecological sustainability knowledge, educating people about it. 00:01:10.070 --> 00:01:13.760 Rather, this dynamic is something else than that. 00:01:14.440 --> 00:01:18.580 And I think that's why we have taken different steps here. 00:01:18.600 --> 00:01:22.112 There are different themes, paths of dependence, 00:01:22.124 --> 00:01:25.060 learning from an artistic point of view. 00:01:25.700 --> 00:01:29.972 Which, if we think about it, provokes something else than that 00:01:29.984 --> 00:01:34.060 kind of conscious learning or grasping at conscious things. 00:01:36.210 --> 00:01:42.279 And I think that, again, if I think from the perspective of a psychologist, that we have studied and know a lot about 00:01:42.291 --> 00:01:48.580 the fact that you, the students, probably know at the level of knowledge all kinds of things, even good life experiences. 00:01:48.581 --> 00:01:51.223 And that we are capable of adding to that, and in the 00:01:51.235 --> 00:01:54.140 same way of lasting in the way of life or ecological view. 00:01:55.240 --> 00:01:57.768 But the fact that the knowledge is being instilled into our own 00:01:57.780 --> 00:02:00.280 actions and practices, that is the question of the millennium. 00:02:00.970 --> 00:02:02.440 And somehow I think it's efficient. 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:06.915 I mean, effectively in the sense that the changes 00:02:06.927 --> 00:02:11.780 systematically in time would potentially be significant. 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:16.520 But maybe in the making, maybe small. 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:20.800 So you don't have to take those huge changes. 00:02:21.420 --> 00:02:27.420 But if you manage to take that small change in a way that depends on the future, 00:02:29.610 --> 00:02:34.560 continue for a long time and on a daily basis all the time, 00:02:35.200 --> 00:02:39.860 then that makes the huge changes possible in my opinion. 00:02:40.910 --> 00:02:46.940 In a way, the systematization, if it is brought to this 00:02:46.941 --> 00:02:48.520 ecological sustainability and specifically to this episode, 00:02:51.670 --> 00:02:55.872 it means the idea that information is easy to teach, 00:02:55.884 --> 00:03:00.260 but experience is difficult, even impossible to teach. 00:03:00.900 --> 00:03:06.400 We should probably focus more on developing skills and 00:03:06.401 --> 00:03:09.840 through that our experience of what this change will bring. 00:03:11.220 --> 00:03:14.720 Or just this classic, for me, the classic concept of fragility. 00:03:14.820 --> 00:03:16.360 How do we get time to learn? 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:18.728 It has to be something that happens on an 00:03:18.740 --> 00:03:21.240 experiential, even physical or emotional level, 00:03:21.940 --> 00:03:26.300 so that we know that things have to change, or we want to do something differently. 00:03:27.090 --> 00:03:28.978 And even if it is a cliché, what you described, 00:03:28.990 --> 00:03:30.931 that there is a difference between small things, 00:03:31.040 --> 00:03:34.740 but it is true that we still very easily go back to that rhetoric, 00:03:35.020 --> 00:03:37.960 that we don't need Finland, we are a small country, and what do we do? 00:03:38.160 --> 00:03:39.160 Well, what about China? 00:03:39.860 --> 00:03:42.640 There are such experiential changes in that. 00:03:42.850 --> 00:03:45.360 Actually, yes, what you do every day has a meaning. 00:03:46.300 --> 00:03:48.280 Yes, start small, but don't stay small. 00:03:48.890 --> 00:03:54.100 Yes, and in my opinion, even if you start small, you have to be a kind of planner. 00:03:55.060 --> 00:04:03.200 Not just do something and think, or wait for it to produce something, 00:04:03.460 --> 00:04:06.028 but I think you have to be in the mind that 00:04:06.040 --> 00:04:08.740 I will do this thing clearly differently now, 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:14.980 than before, and then I can follow what kind of changes this will possibly cause. 00:04:16.905 --> 00:04:20.240 Of course, this is now a real ironclad model. 00:04:20.450 --> 00:04:25.660 I don't think that I would work so that I would somehow be very clear all the time. 00:04:26.060 --> 00:04:32.360 But in my opinion, the idea that you don't start doing anything without that idea, 00:04:33.250 --> 00:04:37.200 that I'm now trying to start changing things as much as possible. 00:04:38.150 --> 00:04:41.300 In my opinion, this observation is quite difficult, you know. 00:04:42.220 --> 00:04:48.500 To see some big structural changes and to see how I, as an individual, 00:04:48.840 --> 00:04:52.400 would be able to influence it through some small change that has happened in my life. 00:04:56.050 --> 00:04:59.140 But then, on the other hand, it can sometimes be the only way, 00:04:59.280 --> 00:05:02.880 and then if we think that nothing follows and we don't do it, 00:05:03.420 --> 00:05:05.640 then nothing will change. 00:05:05.865 --> 00:05:07.736 So, in my opinion, it's an intelligent 00:05:07.760 --> 00:05:09.620 challenge, of course, to find those connections. 00:05:09.900 --> 00:05:14.460 And I hope that in this episode, at least now, we will be challenged to do so. 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:21.900 To see those systems and that whole thing, 00:05:22.080 --> 00:05:25.420 and to see where it comes from.